If I gave subtitles to these posts, I would call this one Adventures in Movie Samples. Probably. Maybe. Unless I thought of something better, which probably wouldn’t be that difficult. Hm. Nevertheless, this week’s babble is going to be about what movie samples mean for the official release of Boobs, Butts, and Feets.
The year is 2006. I’m sitting at my computer acting like I know how to make music on my computer. Even back then, I was conscious to not sound like other bands, especially ones I was a big fan of. Whether or not that’s a good thing is a topic for another day, but even though I only wanted to sound like me, I did take inspiration from bands that used movie samples heavily. Late 80s/early 90s Ministry had a lot of clips from movies that I recognized. Marilyn Manson’s first album, Portrait of an American family, was loaded with somewhat obscure movie samples. Not that much has changed since then, as far as my music-listening habits go, but at this point, I was listening to a lot of Marilyn Manson and Ministry. Thus, I felt compelled to include movie samples.
In 2006 and 2007, I recorded a lot of music, and most of it ended up compiled together as Boobs, Butts, and Feets in early 2008. I had absolutely no intention of officially releasing any of it. I mean, I’d burn copies of the CD and give them to a few people, but nothing more. So the idea of needing to clear movie samples with the studios was the last thing on my mind. And that’s why half the songs on the album have little clips from various movies that I thought fit the song. In some cases, the clips were carefully chopped up to fit the music. In others, it was just there to serve as a cool intro. Some were from movies I had seen a million times. And others were from movies I had never seen. For a couple of them, I’m going to have to track down what movie they’re from, because I have no clue off the top of my head.
There are samples from Scarface, RoboCop, Star Trek: First Contact, a random bit from a Marilyn Manson home video, and a few others. The detriment of the absence of them vary. For example, “Around the World,” which is downloadable for play in Rock Band 2 and 3 (but not 4, yet), does not have a sample from Scarface for the intro, but the “album version” does. Taking that out didn’t really bother me. But the RoboCop and Star Trek samples really mesh with the song. But like I said, these weren’t things I was thinking about nearly 10 years ago.
Now the year is 2015. I’m still sitting at my computer acting like I know how to make music on my computer. Heh. Yeah, so I’m working on the same songs, but in a completely different way. The songs are done. I’m just making them sound better utilizing skills and techniques I’ve learned over the years, as I did with Punk Rebel Renegade. I’ve talked about that in past posts and will continue talking about them in future posts, but these movie samples are the topic right now.
I have reached out to MGM Entertainment (who own the rights to RoboCop) and Eagle Rock Entertainment (who own the rights to the Marilyn Manson DVD). Those are the 2 that I want to be able to use the most. If I can’t get RoboCop, I’m pretty sure I can get re-recordings of the lines. But really want to be able to use the Marilyn Manson clip. If you’re reading this, you’ve probably heard my song “Everyone I Know Is an Alcoholic,” quite possibly in Rock Band. The intro there is my quick re-record of this bit from the Marilyn Manson DVD called Guns, God, and Government. There’s some trivia for you. The audio during that part of the DVD is intentionally kind of warbly and weird sounding, and to my ears at least, nothing is going to sound half as good as the original audio for the intro to “Alcoholic.” It’s this crazy laughing and chatter about “tequila and beer, man.” Yeah, that’s got to be my #1 pick. If I could only have one sample to use on the album, it would be that 5 second bit of audio.
Apparently it’s tough to get proper clearance to use movie samples. And even if you are given permission, you have to pay out the butt. I’ve read plenty on the subject; trust me. But I didn’t want to assume anything. I’m at least going to wait a while to get a response from MGM and Eagle Rock to see what they say. If they say no, then I’m going to have to re-record some movie quotes for 2 or 3 songs, and take them out completely of 2 or 3 other songs. Sadly.
As reportedly difficult it is to get permission to use movie samples, it’s surprisingly easy to actually make the requests. They have websites set up specifically for requesting audio, video, and stills from movies, as well as posters. You just browse their catalog, select what you want to use for what purpose, and that’s basically it. The hardest part was having to watch the movie to get the timestamps of the audio you want to use.
It’s been about a week and a half since I’ve contacted those groups, and I’m not sure how long I should wait. I can’t wait forever, obviously. Speaking of time, you may be wondering when the official release of Boobs, Butts, and Feets may happen. Well, I have a good idea, even though it won’t mean anything to anyone but me. But I thought it might be cool to get it as close as possible to the date that it was originally “released” in 2008. Just recently, I found an old graphic that I probably had here on robbysuave.com that advertised the release date.
This is the last paragraph of this post, and if you’ve been following along, you’ll know I usually yammer on about miscellaneous stuff here. So real quick, I’m still considering doing a physical CD release for Boobs, Butts, and Feets. The hype for this album seems to be about 3 times higher than Heat Stroke or Punk Rebel Renegade, so I feel like if I’m going to put any of my albums on CD, it should be this one.
Oh, and one last thing. Unless something goes drastically wrong, you should be able to hear something new from me before the Boobs, Butts, and Feets release. Two things actually. One thing will be something…new. And the other thing will kind of be a collection of new and old things.
Ambiguity is awesome.